[Hess-ap] Tele Collaboration Meeting AP Program

Dear All,    I'll uploaded the minutes of today's meeting at: https://hess-confluence.desy.de/confluence/display/HESS/Meetings+of+the+Ast… with action items indicated. We will tentatively meet via vibe sometime in the week 23/3-27/3 to discuss the topics for our online AP Program, etc. I'll send around a poll to fix the exact date of this vibe meeting in due time. All the best, and have a good weekend! Anita On 12/03/2020 16:31, Anita Reimer wrote: > Dear All, > > it looks like we do need a (hopefully quick) vibe meeting tomorrow as > the ideas for the telecon meeting AP program are diverging quite a bit. > Please indicate which time slots suits you best at: > https://framadate.uibk.ac.at/studs.php?sondage=ebotr4l44acjp5ig > by today 7pm at the latest (sorry for the short notice). > I will then schedule a vibe meeting for tomorrow accordingly, where we > need to take a decision. > > All the best, > Anita > > > > > > > > Am 12.03.20 um 12:38 schrieb Garret Cotter: >> >> Dear Anita, All, >> >> Please excuse me for being brief; ironically these couple of days my >> diary is totally full with things that I needed to get out of the way >> before travelling (!) >> >> I agree with the general idea of a meeting of some type, but >> discussions will be difficult. Further we should decide on a date >> soon and also to give people time to prepare, having the meeting >> towards the end of the week will help. No doubt SC, OC plans are >> being made in parallel so we should be careful not to overlap. >> >> I remain in a tricky position of having a couple pf people who have >> requested to give talks in the “old” style of a task update and who >> disagree with the new format. If there’s any consensus about how to >> shepherd these, I would appreciate any thoughts. >> >> I’ll check with Laura, Dorit and Michael Z. who are confirmed and >> were writing their talks. I expect they would be happy to talk pretty >> much as they had been planning to do so. >> >> Will keep in touch >> >> Garret >> >> *From: *Hess-ap &lt;hess-ap-bounces(a)lsw.uni-heidelberg.de&gt; on behalf of >> Anita Reimer &lt;anita.reimer(a)uibk.ac.at&gt; >> *Date: *Thursday, 12 March 2020 at 11:17 >> *To: *&quot;hess-ap(a)lsw.uni-heidelberg.de&quot; &lt;hess-ap(a)lsw.uni-heidelberg.de&gt; >> *Subject: *Re: [Hess-ap] Fwd: HESS collaboration meeting in Obergurgl >> cancelled >> >> Hi Emma, Dieter, Fabian, All, >> >> thanks very much for your input so far! From this I conclude that the >> answer to the question "if" is a "yes" so far. (Please all other >> comment!) >> >> Concerning the "when" there seems a slight tendency for next week >> (i.e., at the time of the original collaboration meeting). This would >> benefit from the fact that most HESS members anyway kept next week >> free for a HESS meeting. It therefore makes sense that we should >> benefit from this and also schedule any online AP program next week >> (in whatever form it may be). A time slot towards end of next week >> gives people some time to possibly adjust the contributions (if >> necessary). This is my personal opinion, however, and is, of course, >> open for discussion. >> >> Less clear seems to me the "what" and "in which form/format". The >> form/format depends significantly on the "what". What do we want with >> our AP program. Informing the collaboration? Or more? If yes, what >> exactly? A 1:1-transformation of our original F2F AP program to a >> vibe-meeting seems to me difficult. As Emma already noted, we had a >> program that should foster discussions. This is difficult in >> vibe-meetings, works maybe within smaller groups meeting on vibe, but >> is essentially not really taking place when larger groups (e.g., >> whole collaboration) meets via vibe. >> >> Please all comment! >> >> All the best, >> >> Anita >> >> Am 12.03.20 um 11:28 schrieb Emma de Ona Wilhelmi: >> >>     sorry, I think I sent it from the wrong email address >> >>     regards >> >>     e >> >> >> >>         Begin forwarded message: >> >>         *From: *Emma de Oña &lt;emmadeona(a)gmail.com >>         <mailto:emmadeona@gmail.com>> >> >>         *Subject: Re: [Hess-ap] HESS collaboration meeting in >>         Obergurgl cancelled* >> >>         *Date: *12 March 2020 at 08:43:31 CET >> >>         *To: *"Horns, Dieter" &lt;dieter.horns(a)desy.de >>         <mailto:dieter.horns@desy.de>> >> >>         *Cc: *Anita Reimer &lt;anita.reimer(a)uibk.ac.at >>         <mailto:anita.reimer@uibk.ac.at>>, Hess-ap >>         &lt;hess-ap(a)lsw.uni-heidelberg.de >>         <mailto:hess-ap@lsw.uni-heidelberg.de>> >> >>         Hi Anita, >> >>         make an online event seems feasible but requires time to >>         organise it. I am not sure the structure we had in mind, focus >>         on fostering discussion, works anymore, and we need time not >>         only to rethink it but also to communicate to our colleagues. >>         I worry people would only connect to listen the talks they >>         care about, which is similar to the regular calls on different >>         topics we have. >> >>         I proposed yesterday on my WG to maintain a couple of Skype >>         meetings on different projects. From my list: >> >>         *•Unidentified PeVatrons* >> >>         We could have a call on this - but we have regular ones, if >>         only the people  who attend those join, not sure if we better >>         choose a more suitable time for the scales of the project (eg >>         when we are done with all the source analysis) >> >>         *•Binaries above 10 TeV* –Project kick-off meeting >> >>         This could happen, but we need a bit of brainstorming before >> hand >> >>         •*Compact binary systems* –Including LMXB, Globular >>         Clusters, Mspulsars >> >>         A call on novae was suggested. >> >>         3(2) calls… I am not sure how the general talks would work. In >>         any case I think we need a uniform decision (not like let’s >>         schedule some talk and some others not) and pretty fast, so >>         people know what’s happening. Maybe it is worth it to delay >>         our meeting department and schedule a couple of days in a few >>         weeks, with a clear online structure. (said that, I dont know >>         what’s the best way to organise an online meeting, would have >>         to investigate) >> >>         Best wishes >> >>         e >> >>             On 11 Mar 2020, at 20:15, Horns, Dieter >>             &lt;dieter.horns(a)desy.de <mailto:dieter.horns@desy.de>> wrote: >> >>             Hi Anita - I think it would be good to make it an online >>             event - we are currently doing something similar for our >>             cluster meeting in Hamburg - switching to an online event. >>             Best wishes >>             Dieter >> >> >>             ----- Original Message ----- >>             From: "Anita Reimer" &lt;anita.reimer(a)uibk.ac.at >>             <mailto:anita.reimer@uibk.ac.at>> >>             To: "Hess-ap" &lt;hess-ap(a)lsw.uni-heidelberg.de >>             <mailto:hess-ap@lsw.uni-heidelberg.de>> >>             Sent: Wednesday, 11 March, 2020 17:55:10 >>             Subject: [Hess-ap] HESS collaboration meeting in Obergurgl >>             cancelled >> >>             Dear All, >> >>                you will have received the message from Stefan Wagner >>             that, >>             unfortunately, the HESS collaboration meeting in Obergurgl >>             has to be >>             cancelled. Still, critical status updates are planned to >>             be transported >>             to the whole collaboration, also supported via a dedicated >>             vibe meeting. >>             Further forms of exchanging information are possible. >>             E.g., each >>             department may organize also a department-wide vibe >>             meeting with talks, >>             reports, etc that would be beneficial to communicate to >>             beyond the WG. >>             For the Astrophysics Department it is upon us: >>             - if >>             - what >>             - in which form and format >>             - when >>             Please comment by tomorrow (Thursday) late afternoon >>             (~5pm). We may also >>             have a quick vibe meeting on this (Friday?) if you think >>             it is helpful. >> >>             I am truly sorry for this turn. A lot of work and time has >>             flown already >>             into the preparations of an attractive AP Program for a >>             F2F(!)-collaboration meeting. Vibe meetings can not >>             substitute the >>             important discussions that are typically triggered in >>             F2F-meetings. >>             Still, to demonstrate an active astrophysics program >>             within HESS, >>             motivation for most to dedicate a lot of time and >>             engagement to the HESS >>             experiment, is important. >> >>             All the best, >>             Anita >>             --             Hess-ap mailing list >>             Hess-ap(a)lsw.uni-heidelberg.de >>             <mailto:Hess-ap@lsw.uni-heidelberg.de> >> >> https://srv1n.lsw.uni-heidelberg.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hess-ap >>             --             Hess-ap mailing list >>             Hess-ap(a)lsw.uni-heidelberg.de >>             <mailto:Hess-ap@lsw.uni-heidelberg.de> >> >> https://srv1n.lsw.uni-heidelberg.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hess-ap >> >> >> > >