26 Feb
2020
26 Feb
'20
7:34 a.m.
Dear Jacco, Gerd, Regis, Manami,
at the F2F-meeting of the Astrophysics WG conveners we have been
discussing the possibility of HESS submitting a proposal to the recently
(beginning of this month) announced XMM Multi-Year Heritage Programms
https://www.cosmos.esa.int/web/xmm-newton/news-20200203
and collected ideas as sketched in the pdf attached.
As you being experts and experienced in both the X-ray and VHE regime we
would like to get your opinion, and enquire whether you would be
interested in and have the time to playing a significant role in this
endeavor. We need to decide quickly whether we should give it a try
(your expert opinion is here extremely important): The deadline of LoI
submission is already next Monday!
All the best,
Anita
27 Feb
27 Feb
3:54 p.m.
Dear All,
The multi-year heritage programmes should address a science question which cannot be
answered with many single observations but requires the entire set of observations which
will amount to a very long observing time (e.g. for a study of the evolution of accreting
compact objects, you need to observe a large set of these sources). I am not sure if a
deep observation of the Norma arm or the follow-up of unidentified sources will make a
good enough science case. The Geminga halo is interesting, but I wonder if we can expect
to detect any related X-ray emission.
Best,
Manami
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Prof. Dr. Manami Sasaki
Dr. Karl Remeis Observatory
Erlangen Centre for Astroparticle Physics
Friedrich-Alexander University Erlangen-Nürnberg
Sternwartstr. 7
96049 Bamberg
Germany
Phone: +49-951-95222-19
Email: manami.sasaki(a)fau.de
On 26. Feb 2020, at 08:34, Anita Reimer
<anita.reimer(a)uibk.ac.at> wrote:
Dear Jacco, Gerd, Regis, Manami,
at the F2F-meeting of the Astrophysics WG conveners we have been discussing the
possibility of HESS submitting a proposal to the recently (beginning of this month)
announced XMM Multi-Year Heritage Programms
https://www.cosmos.esa.int/web/xmm-newton/news-20200203
and collected ideas as sketched in the pdf attached.
As you being experts and experienced in both the X-ray and VHE regime we would like to
get your opinion, and enquire whether you would be interested in and have the time to
playing a significant role in this endeavor. We need to decide quickly whether we should
give it a try (your expert opinion is here extremely important): The deadline of LoI
submission is already next Monday!
All the best,
Anita
<XMMLegacy.pdf>
5:03 p.m.
Dear all,
I have been scratching my head for a while, too, on the subject, and it
turns out that I am similarly sceptical as Manami is. A PWN halo (like
Geminga) probably is not detectable in X-rays. For the l=340 Norma arm
field, I'm also wondering what the science case would be; in addition,
there are bright X-ray point sources (XRBs) along the plane which may
prevent good XMM results due to straylight impact.
As much as I like the unidentified sources, also here I have
difficulties in seeing an attractive science case for a larger sample of
sources. I don't see that we could test relic PWN vs old SNR with these
observations, even on statistical level. Finding the accelerators would
be a valid goal, but the expected success rate could be questioned and
it may therefore be hard to justify such a big XMM program.
Best, Gerd
Am 27.02.2020 um 16:54 schrieb Manami Sasaki:
Dear All,
The multi-year heritage programmes should address a science question which cannot be
answered with many single observations but requires the entire set of observations which
will amount to a very long observing time (e.g. for a study of the evolution of accreting
compact objects, you need to observe a large set of these sources). I am not sure if a
deep observation of the Norma arm or the follow-up of unidentified sources will make a
good enough science case. The Geminga halo is interesting, but I wonder if we can expect
to detect any related X-ray emission.
Best,
Manami
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Prof. Dr. Manami Sasaki
Dr. Karl Remeis Observatory
Erlangen Centre for Astroparticle Physics
Friedrich-Alexander University Erlangen-Nürnberg
Sternwartstr. 7
96049 Bamberg
Germany
Phone: +49-951-95222-19
Email: manami.sasaki(a)fau.de
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Gerd Puehlhofer Gerd.Puehlhofer(a)astro.uni-tuebingen.de
IAAT, Sand 1, D-72076 Tuebingen, Germany
Tel.: +49-7071-29-74982 Fax: +49-7071-29-3458
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On 26. Feb 2020, at 08:34, Anita Reimer
<anita.reimer(a)uibk.ac.at> wrote:
Dear Jacco, Gerd, Regis, Manami,
at the F2F-meeting of the Astrophysics WG conveners we have been discussing the
possibility of HESS submitting a proposal to the recently (beginning of this month)
announced XMM Multi-Year Heritage Programms
https://www.cosmos.esa.int/web/xmm-newton/news-20200203
and collected ideas as sketched in the pdf attached.
As you being experts and experienced in both the X-ray and VHE regime we would like to
get your opinion, and enquire whether you would be interested in and have the time to
playing a significant role in this endeavor. We need to decide quickly whether we should
give it a try (your expert opinion is here extremely important): The deadline of LoI
submission is already next Monday!
All the best,
Anita
<XMMLegacy.pdf>
2 Mar
2 Mar
8:02 a.m.
Dear Manami, dear Gerd, All,
thanks so much for looking into this matter so quickly and your swift
reply! Looks like from your expert view we don't have a convincing case
at hand for this program, so I think we should refrain from submitting a
LoI.
Thanks again for your help!
All the best,
Anita
On 27/02/2020 18:03, Gerd Puehlhofer wrote:
Dear all,
I have been scratching my head for a while, too, on the subject, and it
turns out that I am similarly sceptical as Manami is. A PWN halo (like
Geminga) probably is not detectable in X-rays. For the l=340 Norma arm
field, I'm also wondering what the science case would be; in addition,
there are bright X-ray point sources (XRBs) along the plane which may
prevent good XMM results due to straylight impact.
As much as I like the unidentified sources, also here I have
difficulties in seeing an attractive science case for a larger sample of
sources. I don't see that we could test relic PWN vs old SNR with these
observations, even on statistical level. Finding the accelerators would
be a valid goal, but the expected success rate could be questioned and
it may therefore be hard to justify such a big XMM program.
Best, Gerd
Am 27.02.2020 um 16:54 schrieb Manami Sasaki:
Dear All,
The multi-year heritage programmes should address a science question
which cannot be answered with many single observations but requires
the entire set of observations which will amount to a very long
observing time (e.g. for a study of the evolution of accreting compact
objects, you need to observe a large set of these sources). I am not
sure if a deep observation of the Norma arm or the follow-up of
unidentified sources will make a good enough science case. The Geminga
halo is interesting, but I wonder if we can expect to detect any
related X-ray emission.
Best,
Manami
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Prof. Dr. Manami Sasaki
Dr. Karl Remeis Observatory
Erlangen Centre for Astroparticle Physics
Friedrich-Alexander University Erlangen-Nürnberg
Sternwartstr. 7
96049 Bamberg
Germany
Phone: +49-951-95222-19
Email: manami.sasaki(a)fau.de
On 26. Feb 2020, at 08:34, Anita Reimer
<anita.reimer(a)uibk.ac.at> wrote:
Dear Jacco, Gerd, Regis, Manami,
at the F2F-meeting of the Astrophysics WG conveners we have been
discussing the possibility of HESS submitting a proposal to the
recently (beginning of this month) announced XMM Multi-Year Heritage
Programms https://www.cosmos.esa.int/web/xmm-newton/news-20200203
and collected ideas as sketched in the pdf attached.
As you being experts and experienced in both the X-ray and VHE regime
we would like to get your opinion, and enquire whether you would be
interested in and have the time to playing a significant role in this
endeavor. We need to decide quickly whether we should give it a try
(your expert opinion is here extremely important): The deadline of
LoI submission is already next Monday!
All the best,
Anita
<XMMLegacy.pdf>
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